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		<title>Comment on Clint Eastwood and Faith by Joel</title>
		<link>http://timwoodroof.com/2010/08/20/clint-eastwood-and-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-1098</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of the movies you mention are ones that I love. For exactly the reasons you mention, Unforgiven, is a favorite. It has been a long time as my wife does not appreciate the wonderful theology of the movie. (Of course, I also enjoy many of the EARLY Clint Eastwood movies as well--they just don&#039;t have much theological content).

We do enjoy watching (and listening to the soundtrack) The Apostle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of the movies you mention are ones that I love. For exactly the reasons you mention, Unforgiven, is a favorite. It has been a long time as my wife does not appreciate the wonderful theology of the movie. (Of course, I also enjoy many of the EARLY Clint Eastwood movies as well&#8211;they just don&#8217;t have much theological content).</p>
<p>We do enjoy watching (and listening to the soundtrack) The Apostle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Building Trust in Church Leadership by Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 04:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

You have heard the term &quot;in God we Trust all others bring cash&quot;. Humans are by their nature unreliable and if we put our complete faith in another person, chances are we&#039;ll be disappointed at some point. Understanding this enables trust to be rebuilt.

Your #4 conclusion is very real for individuals. Life experiences effect the capacity to trust others along with percieved competency and intentions. Trust begins with a relationship that is genuine and transparent. 

The serenity prayer helps keep me focused and trusting that God will make all things right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>You have heard the term &#8220;in God we Trust all others bring cash&#8221;. Humans are by their nature unreliable and if we put our complete faith in another person, chances are we&#8217;ll be disappointed at some point. Understanding this enables trust to be rebuilt.</p>
<p>Your #4 conclusion is very real for individuals. Life experiences effect the capacity to trust others along with percieved competency and intentions. Trust begins with a relationship that is genuine and transparent. </p>
<p>The serenity prayer helps keep me focused and trusting that God will make all things right.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trust in Church Leadership by Tweets that mention Trust in Church Leadership « Tim Woodroof.com -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Trust in Church Leadership « Tim Woodroof.com -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Craig Altrock, Chris Altrock. Chris Altrock said: Tim Woodroof has completed a great series on trust among church leaders: http://trunc.it/ab455 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Craig Altrock, Chris Altrock. Chris Altrock said: Tim Woodroof has completed a great series on trust among church leaders: <a href="http://trunc.it/ab455" rel="nofollow">http://trunc.it/ab455</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Building Trust in Church Leadership by Yale Canfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yale Canfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

I will write some thoughts about trust as time allows.  I am just beginning to seek churches that may want seminars.  I am interested in your thoughts.  Let me digest them and I will write.  

Your family has contributed much.  Thanks.  Yale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I will write some thoughts about trust as time allows.  I am just beginning to seek churches that may want seminars.  I am interested in your thoughts.  Let me digest them and I will write.  </p>
<p>Your family has contributed much.  Thanks.  Yale</p>
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		<title>Comment on Building Trust in Church Leadership by timwoodroof</title>
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		<dc:creator>timwoodroof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Yale--Thanks for commenting. I&#039;d appreciate any insights you have on this. With your background in conflict resolution, your input would be particularly helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Yale&#8211;Thanks for commenting. I&#8217;d appreciate any insights you have on this. With your background in conflict resolution, your input would be particularly helpful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Building Trust in Church Leadership by Yale Canfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yale Canfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Having completed the MA in Conflict Res at ACU, I see this as a prime source of conflict.  Trust is like a spider&#039;s web--it can&#039;t be mended--it must be woven again over time.

Great article.  I will continue to read.  Your sermon series of long ago was so helpful!

Yale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Having completed the MA in Conflict Res at ACU, I see this as a prime source of conflict.  Trust is like a spider&#8217;s web&#8211;it can&#8217;t be mended&#8211;it must be woven again over time.</p>
<p>Great article.  I will continue to read.  Your sermon series of long ago was so helpful!</p>
<p>Yale</p>
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		<title>Comment on Building Trust in Church Leadership by Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim - particularly in regard to your point #5 above about team trust being dependent on the system as much as the individuals - this makes me think about the references in the Bible to us being members of a body.  In the Romans 12 passage, it not only says that we form one body (or team), but that each member even belongs to all the others.  I hadn&#039;t paid much notice to the &quot;belonging to the others&quot; part before.  I&#039;ve seen the body analogy used mainly to describe how we should value each other&#039;s gifts.  But, I think the concept of trust is implied here as well - a body can&#039;t function without each member doing it&#039;s part.  I think trust is also implied by the statement of us belonging to each other - not only do we have to trust each other, but we have to trust the other with ourselves.

While it is a seemingly obvious construct to trust each member to do their part and have a resultant high-functioning body, I have rarely seen teams constructed that way in the business world.  Typically, team leaders want to have a lot of &quot;A&quot; types on the team even though there are functions that A types don&#039;t want to perform.  It would be an interesting prototype to list all the capabilities desired in a team and start putting together the pieces to address all the capabilities.  I wonder what teams would look like?  Are there elder groups that you have encountered that have built their paid staff and volunteer ministry leaders around a desired team capability approach?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211; particularly in regard to your point #5 above about team trust being dependent on the system as much as the individuals &#8211; this makes me think about the references in the Bible to us being members of a body.  In the Romans 12 passage, it not only says that we form one body (or team), but that each member even belongs to all the others.  I hadn&#8217;t paid much notice to the &#8220;belonging to the others&#8221; part before.  I&#8217;ve seen the body analogy used mainly to describe how we should value each other&#8217;s gifts.  But, I think the concept of trust is implied here as well &#8211; a body can&#8217;t function without each member doing it&#8217;s part.  I think trust is also implied by the statement of us belonging to each other &#8211; not only do we have to trust each other, but we have to trust the other with ourselves.</p>
<p>While it is a seemingly obvious construct to trust each member to do their part and have a resultant high-functioning body, I have rarely seen teams constructed that way in the business world.  Typically, team leaders want to have a lot of &#8220;A&#8221; types on the team even though there are functions that A types don&#8217;t want to perform.  It would be an interesting prototype to list all the capabilities desired in a team and start putting together the pieces to address all the capabilities.  I wonder what teams would look like?  Are there elder groups that you have encountered that have built their paid staff and volunteer ministry leaders around a desired team capability approach?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Building Trust in Church Leadership by Andrea Andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never really thought about this topic before. It&#039;s not something that&#039;s often discussed, as though trust always exists between church staff, elders, etc. because they are all Christians. And ideally, that should be the case, but humans always seem to mess things up from being the way they should. 
I also think it&#039;s interesting to consider that my lack of trust in someone else does not necessarily constitute a character flaw in them. I tend to assume that it does, probably because I mistakenly trust my own judgments of others far more than I should. I am often wrong about people, whether I choose to believe that or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never really thought about this topic before. It&#8217;s not something that&#8217;s often discussed, as though trust always exists between church staff, elders, etc. because they are all Christians. And ideally, that should be the case, but humans always seem to mess things up from being the way they should.<br />
I also think it&#8217;s interesting to consider that my lack of trust in someone else does not necessarily constitute a character flaw in them. I tend to assume that it does, probably because I mistakenly trust my own judgments of others far more than I should. I am often wrong about people, whether I choose to believe that or not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Beatitudes Survey by Tweets that mention Beatitudes Survey « Tim Woodroof.com -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://timwoodroof.com/2010/06/25/beatitudes-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Beatitudes Survey « Tim Woodroof.com -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by John Dobbs, Chris Altrock. Chris Altrock said: Tim Woodroof has a tool to measure how well you&#039;re doing on spiritual traits like those in the Beatitudes. Try it: http://trunc.it/9o0w6 [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Beatitudes Survey by Bill Perkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea.  These questions are tough, but eye opening.  Christianity is not &quot;going to church&quot; it is &quot;being the church&quot;, the questions are good indicators of where our hearts really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea.  These questions are tough, but eye opening.  Christianity is not &#8220;going to church&#8221; it is &#8220;being the church&#8221;, the questions are good indicators of where our hearts really are.</p>
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